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saraward@mail333.com (Ursula) — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:36:59 +0200

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Goodbye to "politics"

alpat.murphy@gmail.com (Alan) — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 12:26:49 +0200

A tots els intelectuals, politólegs, periodistes i polítics, el moviment 15-M els va caure com una bomba, sense previ avís. Tot seguit, un "mogollón" d'articles explicant el tema en termes del model polític ja obsolet.

Inclós alguns que tenien una mica de avís abans del esclat indignat - veritat, estimat amic? - no creien que el moviment sería més que un día de ràbia tipus 10-J-2010, sense conseqüencies. Ara tots aquells que es mouen en el món de la política convencional estan "running to catch up" - precipitant-se amb opinions instantànees i examinant que es pot aprofitar pels seus moviments sense molestar-se massa en entendre la dinàmica - tant la ràbia pel món actual i l'esperança pel món futur que impulsa el moviment.

Toca fer una pausa per a reflexionar sobre el significat real de tot alló que convenientment s'empaqueta com "moviment indignat". Populisme? Sí, i tant, perque el model de democràcia representiva ha perdut tota legitimitat en tots el països en que operava fins ara. A partir d'ara, l'únic sistema que tindrá legitimitat será alló que respongui a la participació directa dels cuidadans. Espanya SL, i Catalunya SL, són només répliques a petita escala dels Estats Units Inc. L'Unió Europea n'és de escala més gran. En canvi, sotmés a la mateixa pressió que tots nosaltres, Islándia s'ha esdevenit en una societat en que tots entenen que els recursos materials i personals de la comunitat són de la comunitat i que les decisions primordials s'han de fer per vot directe.

Per informar-se del fons filosófic i polític del moviment d' "indignats" recomano el vídeo Zeitgeist Moving Forward que és pot veure aquí (anglés)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w

i amb subtítols en castellà aquí

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SRCSknr5nw

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Tue, 05 Jul 2011 19:05:12 +0200

tu ho hauràs viscut des del Sol, no?
una abraçada, Laura!
Oriol

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laurabellama@gmail.com (Laura ) — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 11:52:22 +0200

Comparteixo gran part d'aquesta visió. El moviment 15M ha aglutinat indignació molt diversa i ha tocat -donat que els mitjans han donat més cobertuta que a altres manifestacions d'indignació-. Ha evidenciat un descontent i un divorci de facto entre la població i la política tal i com l'entenem. S'ha vist que tot i què moltes demandes són assumibles per organitzacions polítiques "clàssiques" el nexo no funciona, no dona línia no existeix ni comunicació ni confiança. El que pugui venir només ho podrem saber observant, propossant debatent i caminant cap a un nou model, que ha de venir i que ha de ser democràtic.

no et pots fiar de ningú.

Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:46:12 +0200

Enviar Dilluns 27.06.2011 | 19:15 El responsable de comunicació dels indignats és exmilitant de C's i UPyD